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  • thomas aquinas

    Tupac is no more an authority source then the KKK . Love his music and how he expressed himself, but when you are living your life surrounded by illegal activity not much you can say for yourself. You are idolizing a man who was shot by his own “friends” who turned his back on everyone, because he got crossed by those he kept close.

    • Josiah Daniels

      To “The Theologian,”

      I am thankful that you found your way to our blog.

      Your comparison between Tupac and the KKK is rather suspect. There is a major difference between violence from above (i.e. violence from those in power) and violence from below (i.e. violence from the oppressed). Violence from above is meant to control, while violence from below is, as MLK remarked, the ignored begging for their voices to be heard.

      As for my using ‘Pac in an effort to address a particular issue, I would think someone like yourself would be in favor of this move. Allow me to explain.

      “The theologian” Thomas Aquinas had no quibbles about using “secular” sources to explicate on God’s truth. While you were severely criticized for doing so, you continued to dabble about in the humanities despite the unsavory character of some of those individuals which you received insight from (namely Aristotle). So really, I would think you would be proud of the move I make here.

      Grace and Peace of Christ to you…

      • thomas aquinas

        ‘Pac lived his life surrounded by those in illegal activity. This would impact the way he saw the cops and authority. He talks about being oppressed , but what people group hasn’t been oppressed? What did he do to change this? Cause his own war? Not north vs south, but East vs West. How many lives has this taken? He brought gangbang into pop culture and made the streets cool. He didnt better those streets, but made it cool to continue this lifestyle.

        Unfortunately, those ignored begging for their voices to be heard silenced the only voices being heard.

        • Josiah Daniels

          To Theologian,

          You largely miss my point.

          I am not idolizing Tupac Amaru Shakur. I am simply using some of his insights as a vehicle to offer a critique of power structures. King, for all of his virtues, had more than a few vices as well. More than that, many people (namely white moderates) blamed king for starting a “race war.” Nonetheless, we celebrate and venerate King as being both an exemplary American and a prophetic Christian voice. In other words, despite King’s fallibility, we are able to see what he stood for and we deeply approve.

          I think a similar move can be made with Tupac.

          Again, I am confused as to why someone like yourself is fundamentally opposed to using Tupac as a means to shed light on a particular situation. Aristotle’s relationship with his students was–to put it politely–inappropriate. Nonetheless, you make much use of him when you wrote your magisterial text Summa Theologica. His metaphysics are especially present in your arguments for the existence of God. I ultimately disagree with your conclusions (esp. the bit about the Unmoved Mover) but you get the point.

          It seems as though you are unfamiliar with much of Tupac’s work. I can’t blame you–considering you lived 800 years before his time. But I do feel as though you need to be corrected a bit. If you’re interested in learning more about Pac, I would direct you to studies done by Michael Eric Dyson, Daniel White Hodge and Phil Jackson/Efrem Smith. However, Tupac doesn’t strike me as your style–but I may be wrong.

          Grace and Peace of Christ…

          • andy

            Paul, Peter and Jude all quoted non-canonical sources to make their points clear. Josiah’s in good company there.

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